The Double Empathy Problem | Part 2 with Brian Middleton

Discover what’s possible when empathy is a two-way street. 

Have you ever struggled to empathize with someone who experiences the world very differently from you? Maybe because you don’t share an interest, or even a first language with them? 

If so, you’ll want to listen to this episode, which is part 2 of my conversation with Brian Middleton. He talks about how a lack of mutual understanding between autistic and non-autistic people can lead to breakdowns in communication. 

Brian Middleton is an Autistic Self-Advocate, a Board Certified Behavior Analyst, and the creator of the Bearded Behaviorist, an initiative dedicated to the dissemination of behavior science and the inclusion of trauma-informed care standards in applied behavior analysis and other human services. 

This conversation was part of a special event for our community or SkillCorps volunteers. Other participants include Danielle Terrell, Tara Hannan-Bruecken, Shannon Haynes, Marianne Spiotta, Hailee Perez, and Christina Cairoli. 

In this conversation, among other things, we discuss:

• The Double Empathy Problem
• The unfair expectation for autistic people to adapt to non-autistic communication
• How Brian created an adventure room for his students to take a break and feel safe
• Where the terms “neurodiversity” and “neurotypical” originated
• Neurodiversity-affirming as an attitudinal approach
• Acceptance and Commitment Therapy

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